It’s time to review our Carado Banff campervan. It’s been 6 months since we bought our Carado Banff – a Class B motorhome. We had several opportunities to test it under different weather conditions and on varying lengths trips. Now it’s time to examine the pros and cons of RVing and traveling in a small Class B RV.
Did we make the right decision by purchasing a Class B? Did we choose the right van? Is this type of travel suitable for us?
In this post we’ll reflect on our experiences, share our thoughts on Class Bs in general, and a bit more specifically on the Carado Banff model. We’ll talk about the RVing lifestyle and how we view ourselves within it, and share some lessons, takeaways, and a modest wish list that can enhance future road trips.
RVing – what is our RVing style?
The RVing community is very diverse; there are full timers, part timers, and recreational weekend users. There are those who live in an RV out of necessity, those who seek minimalism or a perceived freedom, and those who bring everything they own on the road with them. Some are the adventure-seekers, wanderlust-stricken, romantics, nomads, and recluses. Just like every community and society – you have them all.
RV lifestyle is romanticized, especially on social media that is flooded with idealize photos of eternal bliss driven by RV evangelists. You don’t usually see on Instagram any sewer hoses, or beautiful, tanned people handling their excrement, but this is a big part of this lifestyle. Sewage and water is something that we didn’t think much about before, but now we are constantly preoccupied with it.
So what about us?
Where are we in this wide spectrum of RVers? At the moment we are just road trippers. In the past, we went on lengthy car road trips, but setting up camp at night, or finding a hotel that will allow dogs, proved challenging. We wanted more flexibility.
We love road trips, but we also have very little interest in RV parks and resorts. Our idea of bliss is stopping for the night somewhere scenic (and preferably warm) where we can go for a hike or two. We don’t mind having neighbours, but prefer them not right next to us. We may stay in an RV park occasionally, and mostly to fill up and dump, or for hookups in extreme weather if needed. Boondocking proved to be ‘our thing’
So far, we are very happy with our decision to switch from car trips to RVing. Travel is much more relaxed and we did gain the flexibility that we were looking for.
Was a Class B camper van the right choice for us?
Travel in a Class B camper exceeded our expectations. The size and performance of this type of RV perfectly suits our current needs. We have an affinity to cover distances, sneak in and out of dirt roads, and un-plan our plans on a regular basis. We love that we don’t need to worry about accessibility whether we are in a big city, or boondocking. The only thing that inhibits us from going everywhere is that we don’t have a 4X4 vehicle. Perhaps this is a good thing – can you imagine the mischief and trouble we would get into?
When we started our search for an RV, having off-road capabilities was fairly high on our list. We considered getting something bigger and tow a jeep, or have a 4X4 truck and tow a small trailer, but agreed very quickly that we want one independent unit. This left us with two options: a campervan, or a camper truck.
Direct access from the cabin to the coach was paramount for us, so a camper truck was crossed off the list as well (unless we chose one of the big ones). We were left with the motorhome option and just needed to decide on how small.
We made our choice
Class B seemed to be the best choice for us and went with the Carado Banff, the second smallest unit available. Size-wise it is a bit tight inside, but we did make the mental and physical adjustments and after a few trips we are completely used to it. Having said that, once we retire (it will happen!), and if we do end up spending several straight months in the van, we may reevaluate our needs and consider an upgrade based on the changes.
Carado Banff – does it measure up?
We chose the Carado Banff mainly because of its layout: the bathroom in the back and not behind the driver and the option of the 2 twin beds that required no setup, or the minimal effort to set up the king-sized bed if we wanted to do that. The price was attractive as well (attractive is a relative term…the cost was our biggest compromise in this process and we ended up spending a lot more than we originally planned to), but a Carado Banff unit that is outfitted with an under-hood generator, lithium batteries, and solar panels was much cheaper than other models with similar options that had a less preferred floor plan.
CHASSIS:
The Carado Banff is built on the Dodge ProMaster chassis. This review includes our impressions of performance, some features that we like, fuel economy, and comfort – all in all it exceeded our expectations.
WE LIKE:
- handles well: easy to drive, park, and maneuver
- has a very tight turn
- excellent on very steep grades – both up and down hill.
- excellent front, sides, and rear visibility and the side mirrors cover the blind spot well
- very stable
- front wheel drive (the next best thing after 4 wheel/all wheel drive
- very agile for its size
- excellent fuel economy
- decent back up camera
- super comfortable to sit for long drives
- wider than other Class Bs
- although a big chunk of cash, it is one of the more affordable vans in the market
WE DON’T LIKE:
- could have been a bit higher off the ground for better clearance
- no lane assist, auto high beams, or adjustable cruise control
- GPS/camera screen could have been bigger
- no spare tire
- no off-road option
- a bit of road noise
- like other tall body vans, winds need to be taken into consideration when driving
COACH:
This section reflects our experience with comfort, quality, systems, and ease of use of the RV conversion part of van. It met our expectation even though the company has faltered.
WE LIKE:
- very functional floor plan that with small modifications works for us very well
- heating, ventilation, and air conditioning are all very effective
- tanks capacity (water, black/grey, and propane) allows for 4-5 days of boondocking before filling/dumping.
- having both propane and electricity allows for versatile use depending on camping style
- the Ecotrek system that integrates the under-hood generator, lithium batteries, and solar panels works really well and there is hardly any need for shore power
- there is ample storage; it is actually more than we need
- the privacy/blackout shades are easy to install at night and are very effective
- mosquito screen on sliding door works very well
- the bed is comfortable and easy to assemble, both as a king-size or as 2 twin beds. We found no need for mattress toppers
- several options to set up the 2 table tops
- abundance of plugs and USB outlets throughout
- spacious bathroom
WE DON’T LIKE:
- steep learning curve to understand the different systems, especially for inexperienced RVers
- quality control of installation can be improved – we hear that this is an industry-wide issue
- the controls for the EcoTrek systems are rudimentary
- some features are not easily accessible (Balmar, propane gauge, latch on sliding door window)
- not enough counter space and kitchen cabinets (we added a Lagun table, we also opened up an interior door to a side cabinet to add cabinet space)
- fire alarm too close to the range hood and goes off when boiling water resulting in several heart attacks every day
- no mosquito screen on back door
- one of the swivel chairs cannot turn all the way around because of an obstruction
- the van is not well insulated
- anything plugged into the USB plugs on the side of the bed is sticking into the aisle and is constantly kicked. we already broke one of the USB ports.
- the toilet’s pedal broke after 6 months of use
- one of the lithium batteries is not starting and is due for a checkup
- the company went into receivership a couple of weeks ago
Our wish list
Here’s a modest wish list of some things we would still like to have
- off-road capabilities
- composting toilet – still debating
- a tiny little bit more space
- spare tire and carrier
- find a way to turn the driver’s seat all the way around
We were able to work though the list and either upgrade, or problem-solve most of the issues. The toilet and battery are heading to the garage next week and we’ll update you on that front.
So what is the overall verdict?
Overall, the experience, lifestyle, and the campervan itself mostly exceeded our expectations and we are very happy with our choice. The only cloud that hangs over this rosy picture is that Roadtrek/Hymer’s future seems unsure.
We are not dwelling on what-ifs, nor did we expect perfection, we just want to travel, enjoy our van and collect awesome experiences, memories, and new friends. We follow Emma’s lead, who still gets very excited when you say “van”. She knows it means going for another trip!
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Another good read. Thank you so much for your wit and insight.
Thanks, Fawas. Hopefully it will help someone with their decision. Especially now.
What’s your opinion between the Banff and Axion? 🤠
We considered the Axion, but went with the Banff mostly because of its layout (especially the beds configuration). We don’t have any experience with the Axion other than what we hear about it and the one time we looked inside one. I think that you need to look at your own needs and preferences. Good luck!
Great review. just missing the 5 stars indicator 🏕
In our case, the RV, or should I say EV (expedition vehicle) that perfectly fits our nomadic lifestyle is, at the moment way out of reach of our pocketbook. A step down is a class b+, little wider than yours. But lacks boondocking capabilities—which is what we would be most happy with.
My wife doesn’t want me to convert another RV, we sepnt too much on our vintage trailer to make it 4 seasons and self sufficient. But, in a heartbeat I would modify a Fuso 4×4 Passenger carrier from Australia, if she’d let me.
Toilet. A compost toilet will extend your boondocking.
Food provisions. Freeze dryed foods take up less space, less weight, great for Boondocking.
Looking forward to your next posts! Cheers.
Oh, I agree with you! I would have love an expedition vehicle, but they are so expensive. Not only would one fit our needs, but it also fits our romantic view of our adventurous selves 🙂 Ugh, money! We would consider a B+ if going full time, but will modify it for boondocking.
Nicely written, thank you. Question, what is your opinion on the noise levels of the A/C unit? Can you actually have a conversation with your partner when it’s running?
How is the shower? Do you find it comfortable?
What type of water heater do you have? Tankless!
Thanks and happy travels… hope to see you on the road !!
Thanks! A/C is definitely loud, it we don’t use it much so not sure regarding a conversation. Hopefully it will be warm soon and we can test it out :). The shower is pretty comfortable and is larger than most class Bs (you don’t have to sit on the toilet to shower as there is floor space in front of the toilet to stand on). We have a propane hot water tank and it provides more than enough hot water. Hope this helps and happy travels to you too!
Great rundown of RV life. We caravan and are just starting long service leave with a view to retirement. We find following blogs of groups that have the same can as us has answered many of the ‘what do we do about…’ questions and even provides modifications we hadn’t thought of.
Happy travels.
Thank so much! I’m so glad that you find this helpful and I hope that your retirement will come quickly! Would love to read about your Aussie adventures! We will soon have a two year review so I hope you will enjoy it as well!
How do you address having no spare tire if you get a flat?!
The Banff comes with a kit that will allow you to inflate a tire to get you to the nearest garage. You can also rely on a road emergency service. We decided to get a spare tire and made a mount for it.
Loved your review. Found it very detailed and helpful. Just beginning to think about purchasing an RV. Am an avid back roads traveler.
Thanks! Good luck with the hunt and feel free to ask if you have any questions!
I’ve owned my Banff for a little over a year. I did some fairly close to home and dealer camping (Adirondack & NY state parks) with no hook ups and managed very well. Did another NY trip in late Nov in snow and cold and was also very comfortable.Still learning the Ecotrek/solar thing. Did some damage on a tree root to my water hook up but was extremely fortunate to meet up with Sam whose wife Kathy is from my home town, and he did a marvelous, much easier fix for me ! He also checked my electric and found it quite safe, with only a minor grounding fix needed. This summer I head south to a (hopefully) get together with other Banffers and then on to visit friends in NC, FL, LA and TX.
Sounds like you are making very good use of the van so far! Yes, the ecotrek is the big one for us too, but we’ll get it sorted out.
Your summer plans sound like a lot of fun,
we can’t wait to go on another trip!
What a great blog!! Love all your blogs!! I agree with everything u said about banff !! I have the upgrades to the black tank dumping ( similar to what Seong did). Put on sumo springs front and back and this was the best upgrade so far -ride and drive much better!! Instead of bottoming out it floats now!! I ride bicycles on the rail and trails and my gf picks me up she likes driving it lot lots MORE than the sprinter we had previously! New to rving and the electrical systems on the Banff worries me especially since the Company went under but overall love the Banff!!! If we didn’t have this group I would be really worried about keeping it but this group is great!!
Thanks so much, Larry! The Sumo springs sound interesting! I agree the Carado and Sunlight Facebook group is very helpful and knowledgeable for Axion, Banff, and Sunlight owners 🙂
Margie I was shocked at how much the sumos HELPED!!!
That’s awesom!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. We decided to stay in Florida for our trip in January. In retrospect was a wise decision.
Look forward to the observations in your next trip.
Ask us if we would like to be in Florida now…It’s been a brutal winter here in Ontario!
This looks like a great campervan and can go off road too, although I wouldn’t like no spare tyre (tire) either, we’ve certainly had to use ours.
Yeah, we do like it, but it certainly isn’t an off road vehicle. We are working on finding a spare tire carrier that would work for us. For now, we keep our fingers crossed 🙂
I have a PleasureWay on a Promaster. Something you probably haven’t noticed since there are 2 of you. Very BAD decision on Promaster’s part – whenever you unlock the driver’s door, the passenger door also unlocks. No way to lock the passenger door separately – very DANGEROUS for women traveling alone. When getting gas you cannot even see the passenger side – someone can get in or steal something off the seat in a flash. For that reason, I cannot support anyone buying a Promaster.
I’m researching Class B rigs and came across your comments. I called 866-726-4636 and the customer rep was able to locate information that should let owners reprogram the action when driver door is opened. She read some info to me but since I don’t own the vehicle I was unable to follow. She did say I should download the uconnect manual and refer to pg 14. I was unable to see how to download that manual (I think you have to sign in as an owner.) In any case, it did seem that there was two different options to change the auto feature. Hope this helps.
Bruce, thanks for taking the time to let Lyn know! I hope she sees this.
yes, we did notice this, however as you say, we didn’t identify the potential danger in this. Do you think that there may be an after market solution for this?
I haven’t found one, yet. Three different Dodge dealers contacted corporate and tried to find a solution and nothing found. I guess Dodge will wait until someone sues them over it before they do something. I had one Dodge dealer actually tell me that is why other Dodges do not have this problem (they were fixed after enough suits).
This is very frustrating. Unfortunately, corporate greed (and other types of greed) are king in this world…I hope you find a solution!
Howdy from Western Nevada USA
I purchased a 2018 Banff this Spring 2019 , one owner with only 2500 miles.
I got what I thought was a very good deal. The PO had literally ripped out the passenger side bed , all the cushions and lower cabinet, the TV and mount, as well as a few more inexplicable modifications.
Fine by me, as I travel solo. I widened the remaining drivers side bed to 33” ( with angle brackets and a 1×8 pine board) and bought a very nice tri-fold mattress. Where the original other single bed was, I build a new lower platform 24” x75” at 14” above floor) with open storage underneath. I replaced the remaining wall panel with a white plastic panel on wood lath supports ( plastic came from a 4×8 shower panel ). On top of this platform goes my road racing bicycle, secured to a grid of D-rings mounted on the plastic wall panel when underway, as well as spare wheels and other cycling/hiking gear.
I’ve busy with some other little customizations. I’ll happily supply any photos if you like. I thought I’d introduce myself prior to asking a barrage of questions. Thanks for the info I’ve gleaned so far. I’m a bit intimidated by all that I don’t know.
Today’s task: figure out the fresh water system. I just realized that the “orange plug” for the filler hole is awol, as well as the black water cover door and drain hose. I’m sure it’s all for sale somewhere….
Thanks again,
R
Thanks for the introduction and for telling us about your mods! Sounds like you did a great job – would love to see some photos. Feel free to ask any questions and hopefully we can answer some of them. You may also want to join one or more of the Facebook groups of Carado/Sunlight/Hymer owners as they have a lot of information floating around.
What kind of power do you have in the van? Solar? Lithium? If so, it will be a good idea to understand how it’s wired and programmed as some folks are having issues with the original factory settings.
Happy to send photos, just not sure how. I respect your role as moderator and don’t want to clog up the threads, etc. So just point me and I’ll send a bunch for you to curate.
As to power, I have the optional package with alternator and 400w panels and lithium batteries.
Perplexing for sure. Seems to stabilize at 13.3 volts. Played with 15 amp shore power ( working on a dedicated 30 amp line from garage) as well as sun charging, things left on overnight, etc. seeing what happens when I do different things…
I’m Facebook/social media wary. I signed up at FB again just to gain access as you suggest, but I prefer bloggers like yourselves. I appreciate your efforts, happy to contribute a bit as I can.
Piacere, amici.
R
I don’t think that you can include photos in the thread, but you can include a link to a site. Otherwise, feel free to send me a message through the Contact Is link. I hear you about Facebook, but in this case I think that you can learn a lot through owners’ experiences. Furthermore, I think that people will be interested to see the mods that you made in your Banff. As to your electric system, it is pretty important that you find out the programming setting for the Solar as well as for the Balmar to ensure that you don’t overcharge your batteries with the factory settings. It is possible that the PO already did this, but it won’t hurt to find out more about it. There’s a lot to take in, but it’s worth the trouble – the very least is that you will have a good understanding of the system and have the ability to use it to its upmost potential.
Hi- I do like this layout, and the price is reasonable, considering some Class B’s are in the 150K range. I googled this company, and appears that it is a German company. How and where did you buy it? No dealerships in the US, though I saw some used ones for sale here. I’d heard it’s very difficult to get Eurpean RVs into the U.S. Can you advise? Thanks
Hi there! Unfortunately, the company that makes the Carado Banff and Carado Axion is no longer in business in North America. They were based in Canada as a subsidiary of Hymer. You can find used ones and there may be a few dealers that have good deals on them.
Great, thank you for your prompt and informative reply. I suppose customer support/parts could be an issue if we go that route. How has your reliability been to date? Thanks again.
Those who bought new lost their warranties, but most if not all part and components are available form the different manufacturers. Every van conversion will have its own unique issues…we find the Banff fairly reliable, but there are a couple of known issues that were discussed in depth in the Carado Banff and Carado Axion facebook groups. I would highly recommend getting familiar with these issues if you are considering buying one of these vans. THe plus side of buying one that is gently used is that the issues may have been dealt with already! We really are loving it and had some epic trips in it so far!
A good, comprehensive review and a great site for anyone thinking of buying or already has one. Thank you for following CarolCooks2 😉
Thanks so much, Carol! Love your blog 🙂
Thank you for your kind words 🙂 Be well and stay safe 🙂
Same to you!
How neat. You are my first new follower of the New Year. I’m honoured and shall be checking in to see what you are up to also. It should be an interesting year.
I am looking forward to exploring your blog, which is the first one I followed in 2021 🙂 I hope this year will be interesting, but in a different way!
Boy, do I agree with you. We can do without another 2020. Here’s to better things…
You mention fuel efficiency – what MPG? Gas or diesel?
Good point! our van is gas fueled.
MPG?
Usually 16-17 miles per gallon.
Do you still have the Carrado or have you moved up? I am looking at a used 2019 Carrado Banff – hope to see it this weekend. Any advise?
Hi Brian, yes, we still have the Carado and are still enjoying it! Are you buying from a dealer? See if you can get a history of the upgrades that were done. We publish a list of potential issues and you should check on the status of these items. Search this site for “checklist”. I hope this helps and good luck! Let us know if you have any specific questions!
Oh thanks for getting back to me. No it’s a private deal. 6900km. Not even broken in. I suspect no upgrades. I’m going from Victoria to Vancouver on Sunday to look. I think it’s priced high but given timing and demand I suppose it is what it $105.0. But very low mileage and appears like no issues.
Very low mileage and considering the prices in the market right now, it’s a good price. See what kind of history you can get from the owner and go from there.